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, pure and simple. from the mouths of john mccain and lindsey graham as they slashed away at war hero hagel. badgering the witness is too nice a description. the hawks swirled like buzzards sweeping down, pecking and pulling at the skin of a former colleague who dared to say this country's been too ready to enter wars the american people quickly wish we'd never gotten into. what's with this hatred now centered in the american sunbelt? what do we make of this poll that shows two out of three texas republicans now want our president impeached? why the cussedness, why the range war, why the hatred of anyone who dares to stand with obama? why can't politics be a matter of belief and honest disagreement, not hatred? why the sick little intramurals we saw today? we begin with senator jeanne shaheen of new hampshire. i want you to watch this back-and-forth between john mccain and the witness today, chuck hagel. let's take a look. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or
is lindsey graham, one of the amigos you might say, not an amigo of hagel, also grilling the witness. listen to how he went after his past reference to, quote, the jewish lobby. let's watch. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> name one dumb thing we've been goaded into doing because of the pressure from the israeli or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i regret the terminology. >> what is he trying to do there, peter? i mean, he's trying to bait him it seems to me. i'll answer my own question, into saying something against a fellow senator. first of all, if he were to name a fellow senator that would be the headline tomorrow morning and tonight on the news, it would be mccarthyism. this guy got prodded into voting a way he didn't want to vote because he's worried about some influential people somewhere. what kind -- it was like did you stop beating your wife? it's that kind of question. there
will said turn. who does he run into that old friends like lindsey graham. >> the reason i voted no to start with. >> i know why. my question is would you reconsider and would you vote yes this time? commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> welcome back, mike sell shore with you, ana kasparian joining me michael hastings as well. look at this, stepping in with sneakers and all david cerona. today, chuck hagel was in front of his old senate, colleagues he thought were friends. he had friends in the senate, friendsfriends like john mccain. >> that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective but the if we review the record a little bit. >> would you answer the question, were
comprehensive immigration reform. the fact that he's there embracing it, a person like lindsey graham also, this is a big shift in the country and in the republican party. >> but michael, it is not all hand holding walking to the i guess end of the rainbow on this issue. and i say that because this op-ed, for example, which senator rubio and will be a part of this bipartisan group says we have a defacto amnesty. my hope is president obama will use the voice and influence to further this approach. however, if what he offers is a process for the undocumented that is more lenient and faster and unfair it won't bode well for reform. so senator rubio taking a critical stance of the president without the president actually laying out a plan and we know and you talk to folks on the radio all day, when you mention the word amnesty that is one of those fire words that is going to get a certain portion of this country pretty angry. >> it's true. it's in a category with guns and global warming and -- >> it is a loaded word, it is loaded. >> you got it. listen. the stakes are high for senator rubio be
. the psychodrama extendstory members of the senate foreign relations committee. lindsey graham. this is lindsey graham yesterday on fox talking about -- let's just play the sound. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leann panetta, who i like very much, testifies about what happened in benghazi. i haven't forgotten about benghazi. hillary clinton got away with murder. >> there you go. hillary clinton got away with murder, and we are going to hold chuck hagel effect tily his nomination hostage until we get our clearance. >> the thing is, as i think you'll see -- as the hagel hearings go on, as you saw in the lindsey graham line, there is an attempt to manufacture more divisiveness within the congress as regards though national security policy. with regard to other realms where there are disagreements in washington, i think we haven't seen a consensus really like this in many years, so we'll have to bring benghazi up again. we have to talk about whether the surge worked or not six years ago. those issues for people, the pub
of people involved from john mccain to lindsey graham and of course chuck schumer just to name two of the people there that the president will let these men work out the deal? >> i think that's right and this has been typical of this president. he has often let congress take the lead on things and in some ways folks on the hill frustrated with the sort of ceding that to the hill but it makes sense because what we have seen i think a lot of times for the president puts his stamp on something, they are often very reluctant to go along. having this bipartisan group shape the legislation is i think a smart move. >> it's different than the executive move coming to young people in the country through no fault of their own who wanted a path to sap. he did not wait on lawmakers. that was before the election and before the big aha moment you need latino voters in the states to win especially california and texas which we'll talk about later in the show and democrats salivating at the thought to flip texas to one day in the near future a blue state. >> that's right. i mean, the reality is th
. >>> now here's your first look at this morning's dish of scrambled politics. republican senator lindsey graham had r harsh words for secretary of state hillary clinton. he says that clinton "got away with murder in the hearings about the attack in benghazi." as clinton leaves office, merle streep is the favorite in a poll of who should play clinton if a movie is made about her. more than 6 in 10 voters say it's time for rick perry to step aside and not run for reelection next year. >>> george ryan is getting out of prison. he's served five years for corruption and now 78 years old. >>> and michael bloomberg had had high praise for joe biden telling politico, you know, joe biden, you can joke about him but he has a set of, fill in the blanks, and he says what he believes and is forced to focus on gay marriage. that's your scrambled politics. >>> turning to australia where massive flooding caused by the remnants of a cyclone has forced 7,500 people from their it homes. there's no power in most of the joan and officials are warning to be careful about drinking water. >>> now for a look at
, ironically, if john mccain and lindsey graham and others had joined with george w. bush, this could have been done in 2007. >> right. what john mccain sort of didn't say but implied was what has changed about this issue? it's simple. november 6th, the 2012 general election. the overall share of republican votes was -- people that voted for republicans is white. 11% nonwhite. it is -- that is an untenable -- we saw in 2012, and it will only get worse if they continue to lose 70% plus of the hispanic vote. that's what's changed here. republicans broadly recognize it. the question is jose touched on it, the path to citizenship. that is the piece that is always the one that conservative republicans said we will not do this. we are validating illegal behavior, no matter what we do. now there are some republicans on board. marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham saying, look, this has to be in the proposal. can they rally republicans in the house and senate behind the political necessity of putting immigration reform behind them with a path to sit sfwlenship or not? that seems to me to be the rub.
is lining up against hagel though. senator lindsey graham, mccain mccain's new bff also took a shot. he brought up hagel's newest comment that, quote the jewish lobby intimidateed law makers. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first. >> name one. >> i don't know. >> why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> jennifer: that, too went on and on. after the hearing graham, who up until that point had been none noncommittal told foreign policy magazine that he was unlikely to vote for hagel. others went further. senator dan coates gave a 15 minute speech said he would vote no. hagel's performance did not earn him much praise from the other side of the aisle. here is senator claire mccaskill. >> well, i'm going to be candid. i think chuck hagel is much more comfortable asking questions than answering them. that's one bad habit you get into when you've been in the senate. you can dish it out but sometimes it's a little more difficult to take it. >> jennifer: interesting. she declared claire
menendez and john mccain, lindsey graham and likely presidential hopeful marco rubio. today they introduced their principles for that immigration plan. yes, this is a work plan devised by senators that rest on four legislative pillars. they include creating a tough but fair path to citizenship for 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the u.s. reforming the legal immigration system. create an effective system to end the hiring of future unauthority id'd workers anauthorizing an improved process of getting workers here. you can do that by lunch. senators schumer and mccain discuss why their principles could be an idea then a proposal and then a bill could be offered so soon a the last election. >> the politics on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever there is more political risk in opposing immigration reform than opposing it. >> the republican party is losing the support of our hispanic citizens. weeswe realize that are there many issues that we are in agreement with our hispanic citizens but this is a pre-imminent issue with those citizens. >> but with conservati
to show that. >> you're talking about senator lindsey graham. he showed the chart. >> this lady. >> the woman had a gun. she had a .38, six shots in it. he said an intruder comes in, she's in the closet protecting her children, she gets off six shots, five strike the guy, but it wasn't enough to kill him. so that if she had the ar-15 or a semiautomatic weapon, she would have been able to kill him. he fled, she killed, but he's saying she would have been able to kill him, not just strike him down. >> this is just a sick conversation. >> but it's part of -- there's a similar thread to all of this, and it's fear. you listen to wayne lapierre yesterday, it's fear. gun sales are driven by fear. his opposition to background checks is driven by trying to inject fear into the culture. it's all fear based. >> and -- >> i thought mark kelly was the best of all. >> we're going to show all this because there was such powerful testimony on capitol hill. >> did you see it? >> it was great. i got a big laugh out of wayne lapierre. he actually trotted out the survivalist argument. >> i know. i
. >> senator lindsey graham and others at the hearing made the case for higher capacity magazines. >> would i be a reasonable american to want my family to have the 15-round magazine and a semiautomatic weapon to make sure if there's two intruders shouldn't run out of bullets. am i an unreasonable person for saying that in that situation, the 15-round magazine makes sense? there can be a situation where a mother runs out of bullets because of something we do here. six bullets in the hands of a woman trying to defend her children may not be enough. >> an assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies in her home becomes a defense weapon. and the peace of mind that a woman has as she's facing three, four, five violent attackers, intruders in her home with her children screaming in the background, the peace of mind that she has knowing that she has a scary looking gun gives her more courage when she's fighting hardened violent criminals. >> and therein -- >> wow! >> -- lies the problem with having to defend assault weapons. because if you go out and try to defend assault weapo
cain, including they include lindsey graham because john mccain can't do anything without lindsey graham alongside of him. they also include marco rubio from florida and geoff flake, the other senate from arizonaother senate from arizona. democrats insisted any immigration reform bill had to include a path to citizenship. had to do something about these 11 million people estimated, i think it's higher than that, who had been here, came here illegally, have lived here a long time had their families have jobs, have houses have kids in school. some have kids in the military belong to local churches members of the community, had to do something being them and allow -- give them a path to staying here permanently as american citizenship. democrats always insisted on that. and the president has insisted as have democrats, that this all has to be contained in one bill. it can't be little piece meal things. republicans, for their side, still have this broken record kind of demand that we have to have tougher controls at the border when, in fact we already have toughe
, lindsey graham and ted cruz. i'm told by a spokesman for graham they're not going to do this because of lots of red tape and bureaucracy in order to allow them to do this. first and foremost assault weapons are not legal in the district of columbia so they gave up and lindsey graham is going to have pictures and posters of these weapons as his show and tell, not the actual weapons themselves. >> gotcha. you also talked to mark kelly about his testimony. what did he tell you especially about the nra? >> reporter: very interesting. mark kelly and gabby giffords, his wife, they are both gun owners. kelly told me he considered joining the nra but he never got around to it. he also told me that when it comes to his testimony here, he's going to be sitting at one side of the witness table, wayne lapierre of the nra at the other. he hopes that they can have a conversation that can really start to do something. two staunch supporters of the second amendment, two very different views on guns. >> they're god-given freedoms. they belong to us. in the united states of america, as our birthright.
-- >> lindsey graham who's running for re-election in south carolina. i mean, you know, the nra has become the home for people who want to protect themselves from some kind of fashs tyranny which they think is imminent. hearing senator graham make the obvious point that that's not what the constitution was written about. >> this thing about lindsey graham, if you agree with him it's great the way he talks. i mean, he just basically took as you said richard, one of the founding, dramatic, you know, well-funded core arguments of the nra which he has to work with and say that's not what i'm into. >> not so much, yeah. >> isn't that the deal, krystal? i mean, who is looking to handguns or even the military style assault weapons to take on the largest military in the world that has weapons and drones and tanks. what are we talking about? >> there is a group that does feel they have their weapons to protect themselves from the government. there is a small fringe group that does think that way. but it goes more to the basis of the nra's argument that any limit on the type of gun that you can own,
go that route. seven republicans have already said that they would vote no and senator lindsey graham has said that he will block the nomination if he doesn't get answers on benghazi. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leon panetta, who i like very much, testifying about what happened in benghazi. i'm going to block hagel from going forward -- >> so you're going to block him? >> absolutely. >> so we're closely watching also hagel's old pal, former vietnam veteran, senator john mccain, who he very publicly split with on the iraq surge. the vietnam vet, max cleland, almost dared mccain to vote no. >> we all suffered the same fate, pretty much, in the same war. and i don't want see john turning his back on his brother. >> that vietnam caucus was very close at one time. it's a shrinking caucus now in the u.s. senate, with many of those vietnam veterans not there anymore. >>> well, the capitol hill drama today will be hagel's nomination. yesterday, it was all about guns. yesterday's senate hearing packed emotion. g
of international intervention. john mccain and lindsey graham believed united states should be involved anywhere in the world that serves our best interests whether it does the country we would be in or not. the yes or no answer that john mccain was seeking, that would be like we know that john mccain crashed a bun of planes when he was a pilot in the united states navy. is he a good pilot or bad pilot? yes or no. there could have been a malfunction in one of the aircraft. they are trying to pigeonhole chuck hagel as a dove, someone who is not going to seek the strong interests of the united states, and isn't schooled up on policy. i remember that surge in iraq. there was a raging debate in this country as to how involved we would have to get to finish off what we started in iraq and senator hagel was against it at the time because he was thinking about the amount of resources and money we were going to spend that wasn't being accounted for. and so it's a complex answer. it's not a yes or no answer which, of course, mccain likes to put into a box. the other thing about syria, where is the march?
backed obama? holding a judge? no, never. if mccain played the betrayed besty, fellow republican lindsey graham took the role of disappointed dad over his remarks about the, quote, jewish lobby. >> give me an example of where we've been intimidated by the israeli jewish lobby to do something dumb. regarding the middle east, israel, or anywhere else. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. do you agree with me you shouldn't have said something like that? >> not to be outdone, freshman senator ted cruz played the new kid on the block going multimedia and playing a video of a collar to an al jazeera broadcast. >> the caller suggests that the nation of israel has committed war crimes, and your response to that was not to dispute that characterization. i'd like to ask you, do you think the nation of israel has committed war crimes? >> no, i do not. >> cruz also asked hagel to defend himself against an e-mail from that same broadcast and actually took a statement about the quote sickening slaughter in the middle east wildly out of context. senator cruz is certainly looking to be th
. here is south carolina republican senator, lindsey graham on this subject. >> the reason i'm going to oppose the legislation, chief johnson, is because i respect what you do as a law enforcement officer. has your budget been cut? >> yes. >> do you think it will be cut in the future? >> i'm optimistic that it will not. >> i hope you are right, but i can tell you and people throughout this land because of the fiscal crisis we're in there will be less police officers than more over the next decade. >> jennifer: so they will arm citizens because of budget cuts pushed for by his party. and while congress continues to debate nonsense the number of people killed in this country by guns keeping mounting. as of today, more than 1400 people have died by gun violence since nowtown. and right in the middle of the hear came of yet another mass shooting. >> while we were having this hearing, and we certainly don't know the details, but in phoenix, arizona there is another what seems to be possibly a shooting with multiple victims. >> jennifer: the most recent reports from
in a testy exchange rate there was also a lot of fierce exchanges between lindsey graham, ted cruz, and senator hagel as well. hagel seemed at times to be taken aback by the tone of questioning. host: to be prepared for this. guest: he has spent a lot of time preparing and looking at what statements he should make in terms of various questions that might be put to him. there were times that he did not seem so sure footed. host: as you look at this hearing, which was the law this confirmation hearing that a person has been a part of, what happens next? guest: the committee will look to have a vote to see if they can pass it to the full senate. senator carl levin, the chairman, told reporters that that could happen as early as next thursday. there has not been a schedule for that, so it depends on senator hagel possibility to put forward a response to questions that he has been asked about. host: a lot of reaction to the questioning by senator lindsey graham and senator ted cruz of texas, a new member of this committee, a freshman senator from the lone star state. what was your take
up here, meaning congress, a statement that drew questions from senator lindsey graham. >> give me an example of where we've been intimidated by the israeli jewish lobby to do something dumb. regarding the middle east, israel, or anywhere else. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. >> reporter: hagel still rejected the notion he was ever anti-israel. >> we have a special relationship with israel. we always have had. so i never voted in-- against israel ever in the 12 years i was in the senate. >> reporter: but the most pointed disagreement was over the 2007 troop surge in iraq. at the time, hagel called the surge of 30,000 troops the worst u.s. blunder since vietnam, a statement challenged by senator john mccain. >> were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. >> i think the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge? >> i'll explain why i made those comment-- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> report
reconsider. >> thank you. that encouraging. >> bret: interesting exchange with lindsey graham. back with the panel. you talk about senator graham's exchange with chuck hagel. >> now that we have shown everyone how spontaneous and non-rehearsed we, are i was thinking of the tape where he quotes hagel saying the jewish lobby has intimidated senators in to voting for dumb things. he said name one senator. of course he said i can't. name one dumb thing? i can't. quite humiliating. he said something remarkable afterwards. he said that is the only time -- i should have used the phrase pro-israel lobby. only time i used the phrase jewish lobby on the record. when you say "on the record" normally you stop after jewish lobby. you never said it. what you are saying yeah, i use it in private. only once on the record. this is a guy who has shown he is no henry kissinger. the question after today is not content of what he said. the views he has had or the honesty. it's a question of is this the best mind that obama could find? to run the largest entity on the face of the earth? i think it is a t
confirmation even before it begins. lindsey graham saying he first wants outgoing secretary leon panetta to testify about the benghazi ter terror attack. >> i'm going to block. >> you're going to block him. >> absolutely. what happened for seven hours? why were there no military assets available. uma: joining us john bolton, former u.n. ambassador and fox news contributor. let me get your reaction to lindsey graham's statements. what impact do you think it will have. >> it will show the appointment down. months after the benghazi attack we still don't know the answers to important questions. why requests for enhanced security from the ambassador weren't granted. what actually happened on that september 11th. where did the story about the mohammed video come from? i think what senator graham is saying is look we want better answers than we've got even so far. uma: moving onto the actual confirmation i know you have particular concerns about this particular nominee, particularly on the issue of iran and you believe that the west weakened its case by accepting iran's line that it has the ri
-- he's in the same place a lot of these veteran senators are. like lindsey graham. a lot of uncertainty about him. tea party angst about him. a little too moderate in their minds. >> pete? >> saxby chambliss may have seen what happened in indiana and said is it worth -- he claims he would have won and beaten any primary challenger. he sound like a lot of what i call legislative conservatives in this town. frustrated both in his statement, took a shot at the president, but also took a shot at congress. >> there's a lot of frustration. i'm disappointed that herman cain's not going to run for the seat. that would have been entertaining for all involved. but with iowa, harkharken, it's great opportunity for republicans. it's been a good 72 hours for us politically speaking. >> we'll see on that front. maria, watching tom harkin, i've had some democrats argue to me, bruce brayly is the democratic nominee. might be a better candidate for them in this environment that they expect to be running in in 2014. you don't want to be an incumbent. you don't want to be entrenched washington. you want t
ranging plan for immigration reform. one of those senators, senator lindsey graham joins us. good evening, sir. are we going to get bipartisan immigration reform. >> there will be no immigration reform unless it's bipartisan. if you want to talk about the president bringing us together, being a bold leader. in 2007 when we tried to do immigration reford, he folded like a cheap suit when the afl-cio allowed temporary workers and president obama put a sunset on the provision and he destroyed the bill for business. i don't need a lecture from barack obama about bipartisanship. he was never very good at it in the senate. if you speak tomorrow about immigration reform, i hope you don't suggest you're going to take a pathway to citizenship and delink it from the border. and if you do, you know what will happen, 20 million illegal immigrants years from now. >> greta: in 2009 i listened to the speech and at the time a democratic house and democratic senate. why would he not take time for immigration reform. because you can't move multiple bills through congress and eat and chew gum at the same ti
other republican senators, marco rubio, lindsey graham and jeff flake are now joining four democrats on a bipartisan plan to overhaul immigration laws that will estimate the current illegals in the united states to have a path to citizenship. >> this bipartisan blueprint is a major breakthrough. a tough but fair path to citizenship for illegal immigrants currently living in the united states. that is contingent upon secure ing our borderings. on day one of our bill the people here without status that are not criminals or security risks will be able to live here legally. >> this will be a tough pathway but it will be fair. it will be one in which those who have come to this country to achieve the american dream will come forth, must register with the government or they will lose their opportunities. >> the senators insist they can do this without threatening american jobs. >> for making sure that the amount of illegal immigrants that are -- amount of legal immigration that is allowed in the united states is based on the state of our economy. we are going to enshrine my here the princi
more quickly than a lot of people thought it would. mccain reverting back to the old mccain. lindsey graham who is facing probably a primary test down in south carolina, a state that is now 5% latino. one of the fastest-growing states in the terms of latino population down there. so i think we're going to see the sort of blood letting on the republican party along all of these issues, but i think at the end of the day mccain speaks for a majority of republicans who are looking at a way to reform their party and looking at these changing demographics. >> howard, the stakes are high for one republican in particular. senator marco rubio has been front and center on rush limbaugh's radio program making the case for immigration reform. while limbaugh praised him, he's also met his share of critics. see what david vitter told laura ingrham today. >> i love marco but i think he's amazingly naive on this issue. this is the same old formula we've dealt with before including when it passed in 1986. that is promises of enforcement and immediate amnesty. and of course the promises of enforcement
good. he had a very sharp exchange with senator lindsey graham of south carolina who asked what senators by name up here are intimidate bid the jewish lobby? senator hagel didn't want to name any. he had an even sharper exchange with john mccain, who said to him, i want to know specifically here whether you believe you were wrong in saying that president bush's surge in iraq was the stupidest thing done. he couldn't get an answer out of senator hagel in a hearing where chuck hagel had chance on the record to make his best case for his nomination, i don't think he has yet persuaded the key people he needs to get, particularly john mccain. >> any surprises? a lot of what i listened to -- saw john mccain giving him a thorough going-over -- i think a lot of people wanted to see that. any surprises? any one specifically tougher on him? >> i think what was most important was the mccain-hagel exchange. if john mccain comes out in favor of "the haguele" nomination, it's over. if senator mccain says, i'm against this nomination and not only against im, i'm going to fight it, then they're
. and he took some heat from lindsey graham about the jewish lobby. >> tell me one person who is intimidated by the jewish lobby in the united states senate. >> first, i -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> do you agree it's a provocative statement, that i can't think of a more provocative thing to say about the relationship between the united states and israel and the senate or the congress in which you sit? >> there's been a lot of that today. during the bush years, of course, senator hagel was known as the rebellous republican and maverick, and now a lot of his votes and statements are being brought back by his former republican colleagues. >> shepard: but unless he screws it up he is getting through and the rest is politics. >> it may be still a battle ahead because if one senator objects on the senate floor, it could send the vote up to 60 votes to require passage so that could be trouble. three high profile republicans said they are a no. john cornyn from, senator imhave, and senator marco rubio. another
: senator mccain's long-time companion senator lindsey graham liked including same-sex couples even less. senator graham told reporters and i quote "why don't we just put legalized abortion in there and round it all out." >> john: well, that's sane. for more on the about's speech and the future of comprehensive reform, i'm joined by eliseo medina international secretary treasurer for the service employees international union. he was in attendance for the president's speech today in nevada. good evening. how are you sir? >> i'm doing fine, john. how are you? >> john: terrific. great to have you here. was president obama right? has the time come for immigration reform or are both sides posturing for their voters? >> oh, no, i think it has absolutely come. i think the results of november 6th speak up loud and clear. latinos, immigrants and frankly the american people know that we have to fix this immigration problem. if anything, i think the congress is way behind the voters. the time is now. we gotta get it done. >> john: i think you're right. the president did say his principles were clos
it and it gave bystanders a time to tackle him. >> reporter: republican lindsay lindsey graham offered a counter example of a woman running out of bullets defending herself. some democratic senators have introduced legislation to ban high capacity magazines and assault style weapons, expanding background checks also up for debate. >> my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal back ground checks. >> reporter: wayne lapierre pressed the nra's position. >> the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. we'll stop them from the original purchase. you miss that point completely and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed it. >> let there be order. >> reporter: getting any new legislation passed is expected to be difficult. there are gun rights supporters on both sides of the aisle. danielle nottingham, cbs news capitol hill. >>ight after their testimony gabrielle giffords and mark kelly went to the white house and met with president obama. >>> just hours after that rivetting giffords te
member, and finally for regional distribution lindsey graham, not a raving liberal, another republican from south carolina. so the real component of this that makes it special is that it is bipartisan and it has some very important republican names, especially in the senate. >> it's nice to see them working together for a change, but i got a question. do you think this shows a new willingness by the mainstream gop to compromise especially following their huge defeat in november? >> i think more than anything something tom brought out, 71% and in the shows went for president obama. mitt romney did worse than john mccain did amongst hispanics. you remember the talk about self-deportation. john mccain said it over the weekend saying look, we can't win nationally. republicans can't win nationally if we're perceived as anti-hispanic and that's the than republicans now get. >> -- and that's the rap that republicans now get. >> we've heard opposition calling this amnesty or essentially allowing illegal activity. how likely do you think this is to pass both houses? >> this is a set of principl
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